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Were Utd Right To Let Ravel Morrison Go?

Ravel Morrison West HamIf there’s one thing you never do, it’s question Fergie. But in the wake of Ravel Morrison’s impressive start to the season, netting a wonder goal in West Ham’s 3-0 triumph against Tottenham, it does make you wonder if it was the right call.

Whilst United have been crying out for midfielders, Morrison has, finally, been doing all his talking on the pitch -with two goals in four starts for the Hammers- warranting a call up from Gareth Southgate to the England Under-21’s where he again impressed.

The 20-year-old joined the East London club in January for an initial £650,000 following a spate of off-field incidents dating back to 2011. Recognised early as a problem child by Sir Alex, the boss was confronted on a weekly basis with news that the midfielder had stepped out of line in training but his talent kept him at the club until it was no longer feasible.

Unlike Beckham, Stam and the like, Morrison was given chance after chance in the hope he’d change his ways but ultimately, following further misdemeanours, he was shown the Old Trafford exit door.

It was a big call by Ferguson. Sir Alex believed in his abilities to become one of the best in the world if he tempered his attitude. In the space of a few years the young man from Wythenshawe has gone from being on the brink of a prison sentence to the brink of his first full-international cap.

Mike Phelan and Alex FergusonHowever, Mike Phelan, Sir Alex’s former right hand man, told BBC Five Live that the midfielder just wasn’t worth the hassle.

“It really was a day-to-day project with him. One day he was there and then another he wasn’t. He is a nice guy when he is with you, when he is around football, but obviously there were distractions.

“At the end of the day is it too much work to put into one person and keep the harmony and the balance? That was a decision that the club had to make. It is easy to say we let our most promising player leave but is it worth the hassle to wait and maybe not see fruition to it?” Phelan added.

Ferguson once said letting Jaap Stam go was one of his biggest mistakes. Despite his trials and tribulations, if Morrison continues to impress on the field, it could be another ‘one that got away’.

Regardless, Ravel Morrison is not here anymore and a certain bright spark of our own, Januzaj is not doing half- badly. That’s why the bookies, including sportingbet, have us down to pick up the first honour of the season, the League Cup. Not bad for starters.



  1. realist

    31 October 2013 at 23:00

    for bad apples see carlos tevez…..morrison and pogba too!

    • The_Philosopher

      1 November 2013 at 11:08

      @realist: Pogba was not a bad apple.

      No one should have to put up with the nonsense Ferguson put him through.

      Leaving was a message that you can’t just treat elite athletes however which way you like. He can go find another club to be awesome for.

      And he did just that.

      Oh but we know how to suck up to Wayne ‘Never gonna win a Ballon D’or’ Rooney. My gosh!!! We got a freakin PhD in sucking up to him.


        1 November 2013 at 11:40

        @The_Philosopher: Think the pogba situation wasn’t that straight forward. While he was correct in stating he was first choice material and add into that fergusons decision to keep faith with the old guard, Pogba and his agents demands, so I recall, wer so unrealistic that a deal was never on the cards. According to various sources he wanted pay parity with utd’s middle earners, huge signing on fee for basically a reserve, and decent wedge paid to his many agents. Utd was never gonna agree to that, that’s why I’ve always believed he had no intention of staying. He knew utd would never agree to those demands. Can’t be a coincidence that he doesn’t think he’s paid what he’s worth at juve and is already courting other clubs, eg PSG, city…..etc.Like I’ve said previous, he’s got a massive ego and wants wages to match.

        • The_Philosopher

          1 November 2013 at 12:56

          @THE RED BARON: I stand corrected.

          And edified. . .


    31 October 2013 at 23:33

    The answer is YES, plain and simple.He had more than enough chances to sort his shit out but was more pre occupied with gangs and guns than trying to forge a utd career.for all his talent he wasn’t worth the effort.Unless there’s been a massive shift in his attitude he’l always be walking on the edge.Lee Clarke at Birmingham was less than complimentary about his time there, so obviously not a lot had changed. What he’s like at West Ham, don’t know, but as far as im concerned it was good riddance.

  3. Jamie

    31 October 2013 at 23:37

    Had to get out of Manchester and away from his “mates” here. Not easy to see someone like him (as well as Pogba) doing so well away from OT but you just have to say they’re not United players. Didn’t have the mindset otherwise he (as well as Pogba) would’ve knuckled down and seen it through.

    • The_Philosopher

      1 November 2013 at 11:03

      @Jamie: Pogba just wanted to play football.

      And instead of give him what he wanted we messed around with his time.

      I love what Paul Pogba did. And it should have served as a wake up call.

      If a kid is talented then you gotta play him and include him some how.

      Not in every game but at least give him a look in.

      What Moyes has done with Zaha is stupid.

  4. Redrich

    1 November 2013 at 02:50

    The question needs to asked of who ever is in charge of United’s youth program.
    Letting great young talent get away because of poor self discipline has to have something to do with poor stewardship by youth team management. I would go as far to say that the last 10 years has been a washout for kids breaking in.
    For a club whose legacy was born on bringing through great talent from the youth ranks, the recent history underlines an abject failure.


      1 November 2013 at 06:59

      @Redrich: you can’t blame the backroom staff over Morriston. Utd tryd all sorts of things to help him but wa blatantly obvious they wer pissin in the get the chance to play for utd is a rare privilege yet to some people it’s not enough.the only way morrison was goona sort himself out was by getting away from Manchester and all his problems.thats something utd can’t be blamed for, so you can’t really link morrison and why our youth system doesn’t produce enough first team players. They’re just two completely separate issues.
      Where pogba’s concerned, money is a massive issue as well as is inflated ego, however good. No coincidence that after getting his move away from utd, him and his agents are looking for a move away from juventus unless his financial demands are met.the guy’s got an ego as big as renaldo’s and that’s saying something. At least Renaldo ‘s been there and done it, something pogba hasn’t. By all accounts he’s having a poor start to the season yet it doesn’t stop him trying to lay the law down. Gives you an insight why he left utd.


        1 November 2013 at 07:06

        @THE RED BARON: Sorry about the ‘renaldo 😉 mistakes’, bit early typing 😆

    • Stephen

      1 November 2013 at 12:39

      @Redrich: Red, that is rubbish. The club have produced some superbly behaved players. Neville, Scholes, Beckham, Giggs, Cleverley, Brown, Welbeck ect have all turned out to be model professionals.
      Morrison is a scumbag, who beats his girlfriend, mother an intimidates witnesses.
      Typical of society today, always someone else’s fault. I would never want scum like that playing for us, regardless of how good he is, why not sign john Terry with it?

      • Redrich

        1 November 2013 at 16:29

        @Stephen: Apparently, under different stewardship, he’s turned it all around. WHU > MUFC at disciplining their youngsters??

        • Stephen

          1 November 2013 at 17:07

          @Redrich: Maybe leaving Manchester and going out on loan to Birmingham made him grow a little? Lets not forget his scrap with Zaha recently playing for the U21’s. Yes I am sure under the brilliance of Big Sam, he has now seen the light….
          Morrison is scum, end of. How can you justify all the other players the club have brought through if it were a coaching issue?

        • Redrich

          1 November 2013 at 20:13

          @Redrich: Stephen. Who in the last 10 years have they brought through that have the potential of Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Beckham??
          Very few, my friend. There is a litany of problems with the youth system and the poor shepherding of youngsters through the mine field they face, appears to be one of them

  5. Julian

    1 November 2013 at 09:05

    The Morrison case was nothing short of a tragedy for United. Arguably here was the most talented youngster to emerge since Paul Scholes. To be fair the club stood by him as much as they could, even supporting him in his court case which kept him out of jail. Could anything more have been done? Probably not although, for me, I think he should have had more game time which might have changed things. However, Fergie’s conclusion that he needed to get away from Manchester and the awful crowd he was mixed up with was undoubtedly right. His move to West Ham may now be proving to be the best thing that could have happened. A loan spell at Birmingham seems to have been the turning point and Lee Clark should take some credit for getting Ravel hopefully back on the straight and narrow. He has, apparently, a buy out clause in his contract with WHU but I’m not sure if United have first refusal as part of that. If they do, serious consideration might be given to exercising it if and when it appears that Morrison has conclusively put his past behind him.


      1 November 2013 at 10:37

      @Julian: If utd activated a buy out clause (if there was one) you’d have to ask ‘would he be tempted to get back with the same crowd he was with in Manchester last time’?.Be like an addict coming out of rehab and finding a pub or a crack den down the road.would he have the mental strength to avoid visiting is old haunts and friends? .lee Clarke said he had all the tools physically and ability wise to be a top player but at times found his attitude and application to football trying at times. Hardly a ringing endorsement. Just be one massive gamble by the club and player to return to Manchester.

      • Julian

        1 November 2013 at 12:26

        @THE RED BARON: Absolutely. Morrison needs to show over a protracted period that he has put that sort of thing behind him and also, of course, that he develops in the way that his prodigious talent suggests he should. Nonetheless there would be a risk but perhaps a limited one say three years down the line when everyone has grown up a bit more. Potentially he’s a fabulous player in the making.

        • THE RED BARON

          1 November 2013 at 13:32

          @Julian: Yeah, be interesting to see if he matures as a person or that is just how he’ll always be. Giggs has proved that whatever goes on in your private life, if your prepared to put the time and effort to supplement your natural ability it should have baring on your career, but when you start going down the path morrison was, there’s only one way your career will go and that’s down.

  6. Everton

    1 November 2013 at 16:32

    Just because Morrisson played a few good games,doesn’t mean that United got this one wrong.The staff knew what potential he had and tried their utmost,SAF included,to get Ravel to mend his wicked ways.Sometimes,you just have to cut some guys loose and let them find their own way.If Ravel had stayed,he would have been a bad influence on the rest of the kids.SAF never tolerated such shite!Best wishes to Morrisson.I’m sure he will become a good footballer.Anyway,we have some decent lads coming through to fill this minor void.Lingard and Nicky Powell are doing ok in the Championship and they aren’t half the trouble Morrisson is,so there,problem solved.

    • Julian

      1 November 2013 at 17:08

      @Everton: It wasn’t a question of “a few good games” it was quite clear to everyone at United that he was an outstanding talent. He was regarded as the most talented youngster to emerge at United since Paul Scholes. Rio was recently quoted as saying that of all the youngsters he had seen at United (including Januzaj) Morrison was the most talented. Now he might revise that opinion after the last couple of games but it just demonstrated what a talent Morrison was/is. On balance United were quite right to let him go but it would be nice after a couple of years when Morrison has proved to everyone that he has well and truly turned the corner, that United could buy him back. Obviously it is something they will not do if there is any chance of a return to the bad old ways. Unlikely to happen, sadly

  7. Jenks

    2 November 2013 at 17:03

    No, United shouldn’t have sold Morrison. They could (and should) have just loaned him out like West Ham did from the off. He wanted game time and needed to get away from Manchester, so it was the obvious option. Ferguson was deliberately vague in giving his reasons for Ravel leaving, citing unrealistic demands which everyone took to mean wages, but in reality he just wanted game time, and took a pay cut to go to West Ham, then another to go to Birmingham. United ballsed the situation up and have since been trying to re-write history with regards to how the move went down. He was mismanaged, it’s a simple as that.

  8. Davo

    31 July 2014 at 13:25

    “If there’s one thing you never do, it’s question Fergie”

    Fergie proved right once again.
    Once a scumbag, always a scumbag.

  9. Greenhoff's Boots

    1 August 2014 at 01:50

    Now I am as red as they come: and love to see young players rising through the ranks (Sammy Mac, Big Norm, Sparky, Mark Robins, Giggs, Scholesy etc). But Morrison is a thug and a total bellend….

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