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With three young stars already in the bag, has the cat been let out about these others?

Following last May’s heartbreak Manchester United have been busy in the last few weeks as the signings of Shinji Kagawa and Nick Powell, and young Chilean striker Angelo Henriquez testify.

With offers for Luka Modric and Leighton Baines reportedly being lined up, it’s realistic to imagine a different looking United resuming Premier League hostilities in August.

The new signings have also confirmed what United fans have known for a while.

Gone are the days when the club could compete head-to-head in the transfer window with other rich clubs from across the continent, as Hazard, Benzema, Ozil and Sneijder have confirmed in recent years.

While it might be slightly misleading to classify Β£50 odd millions (the sum United invested 12 months ago on DeGea, Phil Jones and Ashley Young) as peanuts the truth is that in today’s football that’s exactly what they are – to top clubs, at least.

United’s financial state is a rocky ground, one that Fergie has seemed unwilling to walk on and with a scouting system whose success is inversely proportional to the team’s record, the only way out is to buy promising youngsters (Ferguson will hope Powell will mature in the same way Smalling and Jones are doing), players of proven Premier League experience ready to make the next step (Baines could be the next) and players who have not yet reached a “star” status such as Kagawa.

While it might not be as exciting a policy as splashing cash on Europe’s top footballers every summer, it could pay off handsomely thanks to Sir Alex’s man-management.

The United manager has always stressed that nobody is bigger than the club, and that Manchester United build stars rather than buying them, and he’s been forced to stick to this credo perhaps more than he’d have wanted by the Glazers’ shameful financial decisions.

To fans crying out for big names, a couple youngsters and a Japanese playmaker might not seem glamorous enough but they won’t care one bit should United wrestle the title back from City’s grasp next season.

Dan (@MUFC_dan87)

70 Comments

70 Comments

  1. Ian

    June 11, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    “Gone are the days when the club could compete head-to-head in the transfer window with other rich clubs from across the continent, as Hazard, Benzema, Ozil and Sneijder have confirmed in recent years.” Why do people keep saying this? Tell me, when have Utd ever competed with the top clubs across europe on transfers and won?

    • JonyB

      June 11, 2012 at 7:43 pm

      @Ian:
      I’d agree Ian when you look at the Real world stars – we’ve rarely gone head-2-head since we’ve never really competed with the massive salaries of the Milan clubs, Spanish clubs, Bayern etc….
      Can only think of Veron and Berbatov as ready-made world stars that we’ve purchased… That didn’t go well! We’ve always gone for players that we’ve developed further. I remember The Italian Clubs all Circling Bryan Robson and it was only his loyalty that he didn’t take the Italian Lire since he says how the wages offered were massive…..

    • Moscow

      June 11, 2012 at 7:46 pm

      @Ian: I think what he meant was gone are the days when we signed top quality like Ronaldo, Rooney and van Nistelrooy. We are the shadow of the club we once were, sadly I don’t see that changing until the glorious day the Glazers leave the club. When they leave I want Ferguson the slimy coward to follow them as well. They make a good combo.

      Kagawa, Modric and Baines would be a dream summer for us under the circumstances. I just can’t see any midfielders arriving though to be honest, I fear there was a reason behind giving Scholes and Giggs contract extensions, and that was to emphasise our current transfer policy.

      • Nicodemus Mwangui Kilogho

        June 12, 2012 at 6:39 am

        @Moscow:

      • RedEyes

        June 12, 2012 at 2:38 pm

        @Moscow: Nice feature. If a post is offensive to our eyes. RedRants removes it. Nice

        • Moscow

          June 12, 2012 at 2:40 pm

          @RedEyes: I love the dislikes πŸ™‚

          People don’t like what I write, but can’t say anything back. Very satisfying.

        • Onkar

          June 12, 2012 at 3:20 pm

          @Moscow: Yeah But I was one of the THREE PEOPLE who liked it… πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    • Ian

      June 11, 2012 at 10:54 pm

      @Ian: Hang on a minute! What’s this I see before me….do we have an imposter?!! πŸ˜†

  2. JonyB

    June 11, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Does this mean Henriquez and Powell have been confirmed as signings or is it still not confirmed???

  3. freelegaladvice

    June 11, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    Whislt i hold no truck for the Glaizers even so since their ownership we are still the most successful club during that period…persoanlly do not think high profile huge cost signing are the United way…we make stars…not buy them…

    • Moscow

      June 12, 2012 at 11:36 am

      @freelegaladvice: Let’s have a look at the Champions League starting XI won us our only European Cup in that period. Van der Sar Brown Ferdinand Vidic Evra Hargreaves, Scholes, Carrick, Ronaldo Rooney Tevez,. How many were ‘made’ by us? I can only count 3.

      No offence to young players like Cleverley, Welbeck or Phil Jones but they will never be world class. Furthermore, it is futile to expect them to reach that level unless they are surrounded by world class players who they can learn from. If they are completely relied on, then the same will happen to them as happened to Arsenal circa 2009.

      • RedEyes

        June 12, 2012 at 11:51 am

        @Moscow: I think Welbz stands a good chance he was fantastic for England last night. The next couple of seasons could see him step up to the world stage

        • Moscow

          June 12, 2012 at 11:57 am

          @RedEyes: His finishing and touch ain’t good enough mate. Let’s be honest one of his main strengths is his height and pace but you need more than that to make it big. Needs to be more aggressive and get physical because I don’t think he can dribble around defenders like Suarez or Aguero.

        • RedEyes

          June 12, 2012 at 2:25 pm

          @Moscow: He’s only 21. Still young, still learning. He can only get better and for me was MOM for England on Monday and one of the best players on the pitch.

          To see a young mancunian make it is a million times more any foreign import. Ask any red. The look on his face when he scores. The kid is going places. Welbz Well Bred

          BTW much more than the ability to dribble past people makes a top player.

        • Moscow

          June 12, 2012 at 2:39 pm

          @RedEyes: The complete striker can have the physical attributes of pace, height and power. Footballing attributes like dribbling, first touch, passing and finishing separates the best from the rest.

          12 goals is simply not good enough if you’re the main man leading the line at this club. I remember Berbatov getting booed in 09/10 by the fans when he got the same amount in less appearances. And trust me, Berbatov has better passing and touch than Welbeck so I will put that down to overrated young English talent syndrome that has led clubs like Liverpool to overrate and spend big sums on English players.

          I think Welbeck is a good lad and would do well at a mid-table club, he had a good loan spell at Sunderland for example. I just can’t for the life of me see him start against big European teams when he is in his prime.

        • Craig Mc

          June 12, 2012 at 7:35 pm

          @Moscow: Hey Moscow mate, we got a lot of party line United reds in this thread, and they are going to support the club line, and down thumb everybody who rocks their little boat. Now I do hope that I am in that class of United reds who will be joining you in the multiple down thumbs for making this post remarks, because if they think Welbeck, Jonesy etc are world class upcomers, then I fookin despair mate. Maybe it is going to take another 2 or 3 seasons of the shit head citizens, or the rent boys at the Chelsea kremlin, to win what used to be our trophies, before the message gets thru to the down thumbers! πŸ™„ πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

      • RedEyes

        June 12, 2012 at 2:37 pm

        @Moscow: Lets have a look at the one that won it in 99. Fills me with much more pride for some reason

        • Moscow

          June 12, 2012 at 2:49 pm

          @RedEyes: I’m not going to speak about the line-up in the actual final. No Scholes and Keane, we were outplayed by Bayern until stoppage time magic. Unforgettable.

          It was a golden generation back then, Scholes and Giggs were born to us like Xavi and Iniesta were born for Barcelona. I doubt however that Xavi and Iniesta would be playing for Barcelona into their late 30s, more likely replaced by Thiago and Fabregas, whereas we have given contract extensions for Scholes and Giggs, who were both played in a title decider last season 😯

          We should not dwell in the past where we struck gold in a rare generation of players who provided the backbone for our success in the 00s. We are not Liverpool, we have to look at making sure only the very best players in the world play for us.

        • RedEyes

          June 12, 2012 at 7:42 pm

          @Moscow: Amazing you turned a moment of indulgent nostalgia in to a negative. Why have moments of joy if we can not look back to them on a grey Tuesday afternoon.

        • Craig Mc

          June 12, 2012 at 7:38 pm

          @RedEyes: Mate one swallow doth not a summer continue to make! πŸ˜€

        • RedEyes

          June 13, 2012 at 4:18 pm

          @Craig Mc: English?

    • RedEyes

      June 12, 2012 at 11:48 am

      @freelegaladvice: ha ha I hold no massive truck for the Glazers but would love to drive a massive truck over the Glazers πŸ™‚

      Imagine if a massive man city fan drove a massive truck over malcome glazers massive head, thus freeing up our massive financial income. How good would that be. Massive fail for the city fan and old Malc but massive win for our magnificent club

  4. Yang

    June 11, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Don’t think most of these so called Star Player make difference, It is team sports so we need to work for other players type mentality from most of players. It is not work like you get assemble most expensive squad then you will get title automatically.

    • RedEyes

      June 12, 2012 at 2:44 pm

      @Yang: To me star player often equils bigger marketing machine. Look at Hazzard. No doubt talent. But what has he done. Besides be one big media whore. Perfect for Chelsea or city. Whore players for whore clubs. So far a stand out in an average team in an aeverage league

  5. wiuru

    June 12, 2012 at 6:28 am

    We do what we do and will continue to . Its the reason we support United .Id rather this than be labelled like mcfc !As buying our success . Which is the way the ABU brigade would like to show us .

    • Moscow

      June 12, 2012 at 11:26 am

      @wiuru: We wouldn’t really be buying our success so much as spending our own money ie. what the club actually earns!

      • RedEyes

        June 12, 2012 at 11:38 am

        @Moscow: What a novel concept. Some one should make a rule about that……………….:)

    • RedEyes

      June 12, 2012 at 11:42 am

      @wiuru: Massive club, massive sugar daddy, Massive cock to suck. Massive jaw ache, massive ejaculation, massive aids, massive death, massive reserection, massive debt, back to massive flood lights and massive hot dogs. The cycle of football, massive MCFC . Bigger than a massive thing

      • RedEyes

        June 13, 2012 at 4:19 pm

        @RedEyes: Many closet bitters I think

  6. Gladstone

    June 12, 2012 at 7:05 am

    @ Moscow; Rooney and Ronaldo weren’t signed stars… :-x…

    • RedEyes

      June 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

      @Gladstone: We made Red Van Man a star, he had a few good seasons in holland till he became a world name at united.

      What a home debut by the way. I remember the geezer behind me in the score board end saying if he gets another one this stand will cave in son. Top day face value plus an extra fiver to a toute five minutes before kick of. Old trafford had atmosphere. I miss those days

      • Craig Mc

        June 12, 2012 at 7:44 pm

        @RedEyes: So you fookin should miss those days mate, those days were plentiful before United’s SNOOZE football came in. Now OT is less noisy than the local cemetary on its busiest day! πŸ™„ If you don’t already, you should try United away games, where the creme de la creme of United reds make the loudest fookin noise than the whole of the rest of PL fans put together. Salt of the earth noisy bastard reds they are, and proud of it. Nobody better mess with them!

        • RedEyes

          June 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm

          @Craig Mc: getting away tickets is hard if you have a good source hook me up kind sir. To me going to the game is all about noise

        • Craig Mc

          June 13, 2012 at 5:19 pm

          @RedEyes: I agree mate, the rowdier the better. I know it is difficult to get tickets for away games, especially from top brass bastards at some away grounds, who keep reducing our allocation because they can’t stand that our fans outshine, and out sing their fans. United fans humour is better too. I mean we create songs and it is not more than a couple of times we sing them at games, when the opposition teams steal them and put their own interpretations on them, changing the words. If United fans were in the music business, they would be living on millionaires row now. πŸ˜† . Getting tickets for away games is needle in haystack hunting type thing, because as you know they are like gold dust!

    • Moscow

      June 12, 2012 at 11:25 am

      @Gladstone: They were the cream of the crop in Europe and we snapped them up. Rooney emerged as England’s best player, we paid big money and we got him.

      Van Nistelrooy, Veron, Cole, Keane, Yorke, Ferdinand, and even when challenged by the wealth of Chelsea, we had to buy Carrick, Hargreaves, Nani, Anderson and Berbatov to compete. Those days are gone.

      • RedEyes

        June 12, 2012 at 11:36 am

        @Moscow: Just seeing the words cole keane and Yorke make me happy. Throw in Stam and Denis Irwin and the great dane and I get a tear in my eye. Wheres my treble dvd

        I met Dennis in a bookmakers a few years back top geezer by the way

  7. wellingooner

    June 12, 2012 at 10:27 am

    Keep going with all this financial insecurity and dis-taste towards the owners, eventually you’ll find out what it’s like being an Arsenal fan… You’ve just gotta hope Fergie is as good as Wenger at keeping the team competitive with extremely limited funds. (Which I believe he is)
    I think it’s clear to see both of us should be interested in the FIFA Financial Fair Play Rules. Hopefully these should stunt Shitty and the Chavs and allow the proper teams (those with History and world wide fan bases – Man Utd have the 2nd biggest and Arsenal have the 4th biggest) to resume their rightful place on top πŸ˜›

    • Craig Mc

      June 12, 2012 at 7:52 pm

      @wellingooner: I agree – but I think you will find that Man Utd fanbase according to latest statistics worldwide is No 1. πŸ˜€

  8. RedEyes

    June 12, 2012 at 11:28 am

    Powell not confirmed from what I am seeing, We have a greed a fee with Crewe. But other clubs interested. No deal with player reached.

    Have we confirmed the chillian kid. I thought it was down to a work permit aplication on the grounds of “outstanding talent” and we all know how that can turn out

    As the greatest band say

    Don’t count your chickens
    ‘Cos they’re never gonna hatch
    You can’t catch a monkey with a shotgun and a sack

    Bring on the roses this summer

    • Craig Mc

      June 12, 2012 at 7:55 pm

      @RedEyes: You might have red eyes mate, but are you sure they are United ones, and not from too many nights on the tiles πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜€ They are announcing on latest ITV news that United have signed Powell – so go figure eh?

      • RedEyes

        June 13, 2012 at 4:23 pm

        @Craig Mc: It is easy to predict the future when you are in it. Check the time stamp G

  9. amlendu

    June 12, 2012 at 1:09 pm

    policy of manchester united to make a teame of present & future is good fans shold faith on sir alex who will bring back winning habits otro

  10. Traverse

    June 12, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    They aren’t confirmed yet, but I’d be very surprised if Powell and Henriquez aren’t signed sooner rather than later.

    All the talk is that Modric was asked last season to give Spurs one more year and if they didn’t get Champions League football they’d let him leave. They didn’t. Chelsea decided to go for Hazard instead, leaving pretty much us as the only destination he’s interested in. PSG are interested but I don’t think the player is. The French league is behind England, Spain, Germany and probably Italy of the Major European leagues, with a lower average turnout than The Championship.

    I’ve read in a few places that we’ve agreed a contract with Modric and it’s now down to sorting a price with Spurs. This may take a little longer than we’d like as Daniel Levey’s mom has died, causing him to take some time off.

    If it happens, it needs to happen before we head off on our pre-season tour.

    Another interesting development is the news that CSKA’s Alan Dzagoev is a free agent as of next month.

    • Opti

      June 12, 2012 at 3:23 pm

      @Traverse: “free” agent — MASSIVE wages πŸ™

    • Opti

      June 12, 2012 at 3:24 pm

      @Traverse: On record: I am not a fan of Modric. He is too moody for me… big fish, little pond = Modric.

      • ash is the man

        June 12, 2012 at 4:50 pm

        @Opti: Modric is a big fish in a small pond but if he signs for us he will be fantastic considering our style of play and quality players. He isnt moody at all

        • Opti

          June 12, 2012 at 4:57 pm

          @ash is the man: he is moody because he looks like my moody aunt πŸ˜€

        • ash is the man

          June 12, 2012 at 5:05 pm

          @Opti: hahaha

  11. Shera

    June 12, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Moscow, Grognard and the rest of the ‘doombringers’ love trying to create moral panic and I have no idea why. I agree with Ian Ronaldo, Rooney, Van Nistelrooy were young talents that had bags of potential when we bought them and were not established stars, the club made them what they are considered today.

    I actually prefer United bringing in young talent, not that we are becoming a feeder club to Real Madrid but because bringing up talent is the way to go.

    As a long time fan I can’t wait to see Welbeck, the Da Silva twins, Jones, Smalling, Evans, De Gea … the list goes on, and how these players develop.

    • Moscow

      June 12, 2012 at 6:09 pm

      @Shera: If being a feeder club to Real Madrid was used as a yardstick for success, I would suggest that we have regressed in that respect. Since Ronaldo’s sale, Real Madrid don’t seem to want anyone from us. I wonder why?

      If the youngsters we had were the dog’s bollocks then I assure you they would have ended up at Real Madrid just like Ozil, Benzema, Sahin etc.

  12. Shera

    June 12, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    Moscow you should support Madrid, I mean seriously your completely twisted in what you think about our transfer policy. This dream that you have is childs play … Its time to wake up my friend.

    You have no patience, we are not as far off as some may think we have the greatest manager of all time at the helm, some bright talent that will grow to become superstars.

    • Moscow

      June 12, 2012 at 6:04 pm

      @Shera: It’s not a dream. Manchester United are the most valuable sports club in the world, have the most revenue and the most fans which makes it along with Real Madrid the biggest club in the world.

      Without the Glazers, our financial muscle coupled with the power of the United brand and the appeal of the history of the most illustrious club in English history is more than enough to bring the best players in the world without a sugar daddy sheik for example, in turn generating yet more popularity and revenue. As the biggest club in the world, I’d expect us to field the very best in the world rather than the shower of shit I saw last season. As a fan and customer, I have every right to question and criticise a product which is becoming increasingly worse yet more expensive at the same time. As for patience, life is too short for me to gamble my time on the dodgy promises of an old man who pockets a king’s ransom in return for lying and marketing on the behalf of his masters. I like watching good football, and that is all there is to it.

      So you can shove that ‘go support Madrid’ where the sun don’t shine 8)

      • RedEyes

        June 12, 2012 at 7:36 pm

        @Moscow: Shower of shit. Harsh

        • Moscow

          June 13, 2012 at 4:32 pm

          @RedEyes: What else do you call a team who plays cowardly football and wins nothing as a result?

      • Shera

        June 12, 2012 at 10:10 pm

        @Moscow: No one is questioning your right to question the current United product itself, I’m no optimist I am a realist, here in lies the issue as I disagree with your pessimistic view. Spending 30 million on players does not guarantee success, look at Shevchenko, Berbatov etc

        Would you not rather take a page out of Catalonia’s book and indeed our own book with the success we had in the late 90s – 00s. The football is produced with a team that has been together for decades not stitched together with money. Developing a team el la Galactico is a hinderance on finance as opposed to the model where we create the stars.

        Buying and nurturing our young talent will allow us to bring fourth a generation of new stars, that will win titles and entertain. This can then be repeated in a cycle much like what we are seeing at the Camp Nuo. Buying superstars is hard to replicate year in year out, just look at Chelsea and Madrid in recent years.

        I can understand parts of your grievances, in recent years we have missed out on players like Torres, Nasri and now Hazard, but in the same vein you have to look at the signings of Rooney Ronaldo et al that have made our team play scintillating football and win titles.

        United has always and will always give birth to stars, not sell the soul of the club to claim stars.

        I respect your view Moscow as everyone has an opinion, I just don’t agree with some of your ‘over the top’ statements.

        • Opti

          June 12, 2012 at 11:00 pm

          @Shera:
          “United has always and will always give birth to stars, not sell the soul of the club to claim stars.”

          I think changed with Rooney’s Ransom… πŸ˜₯

        • ForeverRed

          June 13, 2012 at 3:27 am

          @Shera: I agree with your sentiment Shera about bringing through youth. Most of us love to see the home grown/nurtured players succeed. It’s the way we’ve been brought up, and often why we support Utd. Sadly, the problem is that despite having the same man in charge for the last quarter of a century, the academy /reserves have proven inadequate to maintain our European top flight status, and we have necessarily been dependent on signing outside talent at high prices to maintain that position (or not, as the case currently stands). We don’t need a whole team of ‘established’ purchases, but history shows that we always need a group of recognized top talent at the core of the team to make us successful and mentor the home grown talent. Over the last 2-3 seasons we have simply not had that depth of world class players. When the same person has overseen the team for so long, and thus can prepare for the predictable cycles in players’ careers/performances, there is no excuse for that (assuming of course that the finances are indeed there). Injury excuses also don’t cut it for me. Even with those players back, yes we might have won the PL (esp Vidic), but we still would have been shown up in the CL through our dearth of midfield talent.

        • Craig Mc

          June 13, 2012 at 1:56 pm

          @ForeverRed: Amen to that Forever Red – just a totally agreed with your comments Amen! You tell the truth mate. Which a lot of Unted Reds don’t, somewhere they maybe lost their vision of what our great club has always been, a few world class players, and very good young players who can actually break through and become almost instant hits! What happened to the famous Fergie saying regarding our youth, IF YOU ARE GOOD ENOUGH, you will go out on the pitch and show me that you are ready. Sadly because of us having to maintain our top billing etc, they young lads only get a couple of shots to prove they are truly upcoming star material, and a good few of them haven’t done that yet, well not IMHO they haven’t. Love United hate Glazer.

        • Craig Mc

          June 13, 2012 at 2:00 pm

          @Shera: Well I would just settle for one VERY GOOD world class midfielder right now!

      • Trydent

        June 13, 2012 at 8:01 am

        @Moscow: You’re the shower of shit!What an arrogant no account little gob shite you truly are.”supporters” like you are not worth the shit you call our team.

        • Moscow

          June 13, 2012 at 11:06 am

          @Trydent: I love you too.

  13. Traverse

    June 12, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Nick Powell has signed. http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Various-Articles/2012/Jun/nick-powell-agrees-four-year-deal-with-manchester-united.aspx

    Kagawa and Powell is a good start. If we can add Modric, Baines and Henriquez to that next season will be very very interesting.

    And I don’t just mean for United. Chelsea have already added Hazard and Marin and probably Hulk. Arsenal are expected to sign Giroud, M’Vila, Podolski and keep RVP and god knows what City are going to do. Next season is really hotting up already.

    • Opti

      June 12, 2012 at 6:52 pm

      @Traverse: Just Henriquez and Modric or Sneijder would do it for me now… and selling Anderson. I don’t care for Baines… too old to have serious impact at United. 8)

      Interesting season ahead πŸ˜€

      • adie

        June 12, 2012 at 7:19 pm

        @Opti: feels good after buying a top prospect. been a while since we got the hyped ‘ Next Big Thing’ esp after walcott, bale, chamberlain snubs. πŸ™‚

      • Shera

        June 12, 2012 at 10:16 pm

        @Opti: I agree mate! – I’ve always liked Anderson though, he’s got so much talent but issues with injuries and off the field have left me wondering what could have been.

        • Traverse

          June 12, 2012 at 11:37 pm

          @Shera: I love Anderson, but he is never fit. Ever. He’s played how many games for us at a time when we have such a weak midfield? Not enough. Time to cut our losses and move on. He’ll probably go on to be much better at a different, lesser club.

        • Opti

          June 13, 2012 at 1:15 am

          @Traverse: WELCOME TO MANCHESTER (CITY), ANDERSON!

        • gator

          June 14, 2012 at 4:56 pm

          @Traverse: @Traverse: just read the milans are after him. i think it will be good for him… still a fun song ander son son son 8)

  14. joonnn

    June 13, 2012 at 4:58 am

    hey guys, havent seen much of powell. just wondering what you guys know about him

    • Traverse

      June 14, 2012 at 12:40 pm

      @joonnn: Been playing up top for Crewe cause he’s their best player, but will be more of a CM for us. He looks like a take the game by the scruff of the neck and win it type of player. I’ve heard a few people say he’s in the Gerrard mould. His old youth team manager has called him Cantonaesq in his ability to win a game on his own.

      Yeah that’s in League 2, but if he can step up to The Premiership and he is a Gerrard type it’ll be cocks out time and Pogba who.

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